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  • TeddyKoochu
    09-15 07:35 AM
    My dear friend, always you have to be hopeful, and cheerful.
    If you want to build your hope look at people who are waiting with PDs in 2009.

    This is a great thread. I don't know how real are the predictions, but this thread gives a great energy. lots of thanks to OP.

    You are correct, being hopeful & cheerful is extremely important for all of us here. The spillover really holds the key as to how things would be moving.





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  • user1205
    02-15 04:46 PM
    For the most part I think you're right. When I did my master's we were less than 10 white people in 200 in that major. Most of the indian people in there (about half of the 190) were H4s studying while the spouse came on H1 directly from India. And while I had to pay international tuition they got the in state resident tuition.
    When I finished my degree might I add in the top 5 of those 200 I had a hard time finding a job while my colleagues each knew someone who helped them land a job a lot easier. I did ok for myself in the end and I have many Indian friends so don't take this as an anti-indian post. But there are definitely advantages to be part of a big group that is concentrated in an industry.

    That being said, I don't think that we would be having this discussion in a normal world in which the GC numbers are enough. So stop the bickering and work towards increasing those numbers. That will make life easier for everybody.



    The reason we have greater supply of workforce in IT from one specific country is not because of skills or talents. Almost every IT workers from ROW and China came to the US as a foreign student after TOEFL, GMAT, GRE, internship and only then landed a job in IT. Whereas the preponderence of IT workers from India came here through L1/B1/H1 sponsorship through bodyshops. Attending school, preparing for generalized tests requires time, money and patience. This is one big factor why the supply curve is skewed.





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  • at0474
    12-14 12:55 PM
    ......

    --Although I agree with what you said in earlier post (I had to debate with someone who thinks otherwise), I find this post in poor taste.

    Please guild your temper while expressing yourself and refrain from bursting out. Looks bad to the outsiders if they visit these forums.

    Ofcourse, humor is always welcome.





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  • Dakota Newfie
    12-14 04:06 PM
    I know what I am about to say will trigger a lot of reaction and some resentment, but it has to be said on behalf of those who are not Indian. I think the per country limit is to ensure that people of all nationalities and races have an equal opportunity to obtain a green card and to ensure that no one nationality, group, or even sector (i.e. IT) monopolizes the so few visas that are available. In fact, in the visa lottery, countries become excluded when the number of immigrants from them reach a certain point, so we are lucky they do not do that in the Employment-based system!

    I think that by wanting to remove the per country limit so more Indians can avail of the green card quota is both asking for "special treatment" and a slap in the face for all the non-Indian IV members. The more I read the threads on this site, the more I feel that this organization is geared just to one ethnic group. I am sure that Indians probably make up the majority of members, but the founders of IV (I hope) did not want this organization to become one-sided! Please be considerate of ALL members and try to come up with suggestions that would benefit ALL members!!!:mad:



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  • vdlrao
    07-21 12:15 AM
    I presume, from the July 2007 fiasco DOS might have learnt a lesson of deciding the cut off dates very care fully based on the Aproved labors In a pertucular year from a perticular country with a perticular ctegory. So thats the reason why I am thinking that instead of putting whole EB2 as a current
    (It is estimated that there are aout 20k + visas still available for this fiscal year) DOS has put a cut of date for EB2 India/china to Jun 2006. So I could say USCIS is making the cut off dates very carefully by using all the available information like approved labors in a perticular year from a perticular country and in a perticular category.


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    Originally Posted by delax
    Here you go - conversion should not impact this as the number of LC approvals remains the same:

    Here are all the LC approvals for India in the last seven years.

    Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
    2007 85112 24573
    2006 79782 22298
    2005 6133 1350
    2004 43582 No Info
    2003 62912 No Info
    2002 79784 No Info
    2001 77921 No Info
    2000 70204 No Info

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    If you see the appoved labors by a fiscal year above, I am assuming that there would be about 10,000 labours for EB2 India every full year except 2005.
    In 2005 there may be only about 600 labors for EB2 India.


    Based on this it would be
    About 5,000 labors for EB2 India from April 2004 to Sep 2004 (About half year),
    About 600 labors for EB2 India from Oct 2004 - Sep 2005

    About 5,000 labors for EB2 India from Oct 2005 to 1st Jun 2006( About half year)

    So total labors may be around 10,600 which needs about 25,000 visas.


    So it seems there are about 20k visas availble now.

    So they have moved the dates accordingly.





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  • gc2005
    05-25 12:01 PM
    We are thinking about applying for canadian PR. Should we include our son (US citizen) in the application? or do US citizens get to reside in Canada without visa?
    Also, currently my company is processing my GC, will this be affected if we apply for canadian PR?



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  • ocpmachine
    09-15 02:54 PM
    I just wondering seeing these estimated numbers, with out having a proper information, for the given years.

    Vdlrao,

    You are admired a lot for bringing in hope for lot of people with your EB2 prediction thread, can you jump in and throw some numbers here please if you think the numbers quoted are out of way, i understand this is time consuming but since you already did your homework last time around it should take you few minutes to come up with some realistic numbers.





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  • jetflyer
    06-02 10:51 AM
    ss benefits when we retire is such a long way away ..who knows what the situation will be that time

    You are so right that ss may not be there when we need, so we should raise voice today and fight for ourselves. We pay 40-45% of our hard earned money in tax, SS, medicare, insurance, etc. and then pay another 30% in housing... what left for us ? 25%??? is that what we work for ? even if you have your own paidoff house govt. want house tax 1-3% of current value of your house every year... what the heck. all this when we even don't get fair share of job market?
    we must raise voice for NO SS, Medicare for H1b/EAD exactly same way as they say in job positing NO H1b/EAD - ONLY US Citizen/Green Card nee to apply, then yes ONLY US Citizen/Green Card holder need to pay SS + Medicare.



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  • dan19
    05-09 02:38 PM
    1. Birth certificates: They are asking for the Birth Certificates with the application. I and my wife don't have our birth registered in India. Can we provide birth certificates that the Indian embassy sends for this purpose? For US I-485, we were planning to use Non-availability certificates.

    >> Canada Accepts Birth Certificates from the embassy.

    2. Experience Letter: Will a notarized letter from colleague work for showing work-exp in India. Please note that I already have over 4 yrs of experience in US after that - for which I will manage to get a work exp letter from my company.

    >>4 yrs in US should be sufficient. You can just put those 4 yrs of exp in the work exp. sheet they provide. Just ignore the others, else be prepared to answer any queries about it like paystubs, offer letter etc.

    3. Status in US: My H1B is valid until Oct 2009, but I don't have the visa stamped on my passport (last H1B visa stamp expired). Can I send a copy of I-797 to prove my status? Also, my wife's F-1 visa has expired but she has a valid I-20 until Dec 2007. Can I send copy of I-20 for proving her valid status in US?

    >>You don't need a passport stamp

    * I am providing these answers based on my experience. I got my Canadian PR. But please cross-check.





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  • conchshell
    06-14 12:43 PM
    Dilip,

    There are no excuses. You are closing the doors behind and trying to forget the path you came through.

    Protectionalism comes from the mere thinking that, some deserve a better and easier life just because they happen to be "born" at some place, or because they happen to be there "earlier", and don't want to be threatened by smarter / hardworking humanity.

    Great thoughts. At least there are some on this alias who can think different from all others who are trying to stand on high pseudo moral values, when the basis of their standing up is nothing else but only and only their own self interest.

    Have you ever thought about the millions and millions of Bangladeshi immigrants who jump Indian border's to find a job and to feed their families. How many of us apply the same moral values to immigration policies in India. Or does it ever bother you to support India student's suffering in Australia.

    So only if you have clarity of thoughts on all these issues, and you support immigration no matter what country you talk about, you have a right to complain about the US immigration policies. Otherwise, tomorrow when domestic market surge in India, you will be the first one, complaining about a low cost engineer coming out from a Nepal or Bangaladesh university.



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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 01:40 PM
    Let me see if I understand PlainSpeak's language:
    1. IV core needs to put a lot of resources to lobby for the DV bill, knowing full well that this bill will go nowhere!

    2. Raise a false sense of hope among the EB3 community, again, knowing full well that its going to be dashed - just so that IV gains the trust of EB3 (I am EB3, and they have my trust without your logic!)

    3. An exercise to gain trust by misleading!:D

    I wonder why IV core did not come up with this brilliant idea ;)
    Mr willigetgc to start off with here are a few facts

    1. IV core needs to put a lot of resources to lobby for the DV bill
    IV Core need not put a lot of resources to lobby for DV bill if they feel it is not worth the time and effort. that is for IV Core to decide and the decision is theirs to make after all they know about advocacy and lobbying

    1. knowing full well that this bill will go nowhere!
    That is my personal opinion and also the opinion of a whole bunch of people on this forum who do not agree with me but do agrree to teh fact that it has been 4 years since any immigration friendly bill came to be debated in congress. What wil make DV bill any different. This wil also go the same way. I would be surpirsed if it even comes up for debate

    2. Raise a false sense of hope among the EB3 community, again, knowing full well that its going to be dashed - just so that IV gains the trust of EB3

    My friend willigetgc what do EB3 people have besides hope. If you look at the statistics i will get GC in 19 year sand you with a priority date of May 07 (20 - 25 years). No reason not to hope for something and if IV really believes in what i suggested (I am sure it will go through all possible refinements) that would be a signal of not just hope but also action on part of IV to do something about EB Retrogressed folks. Now i am not saying it will happen and i am also not saying it will. All i am saying is here is a chnace to do something different which is also right because iot is not part of teh IV charter that IV is working to get relief for retrogressed EB

    (I am EB3, and they have my trust without your logic!)
    And what a great thing it is that you being an EB3 with a priority date of 2007 are working with EB2 hand in hand to get something done. It is great that you have trust with IV. Without trust nothing works. What i say is i have trust in IV i do not have trust that what they advocate is good for EB3. Semantics you may say but please read the lines carefully my friend. I hope you will understand





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  • addsf345
    05-29 04:21 PM
    If you guys had a chance of getting substitute labor today you will try to take it at any cost. But you will not want to contribute $25 to IV. If you had a chance of getting a greencard via L1A route you will do it. Just because you cannot get a substitute labor or L1A, you are saying sour grapes.

    This is a bitter truth that we do not like to hear but each will do if they get a chance. Sub labor was legal when it was there and L1A route is also legal today. It is for USCIS to decide if there is a loophole. Stop behaving like an anti-immigrant. Just because you are not able to get this privilege does not mean others cannot try. If you want to try, try to get more visas for everyone rather than blocking people.

    well said. Our main problem is country quota. some one posted a nice thread, I guess the title was something like 'is being born in INDIA a bad karma???" - I always remember that. No one should be punished for having been born in certain country.

    Having said that, one my very good friend tried to form state IV chapter and contacted around 20 Desis who are on EAD and in the same boat as rest of us. As united the indians are, none of the 20 showed any interest in joining IV or fighting for their right using civil democratic way. People just dont' want to do anything. They are fine with wait times. So I guess this is the fate.

    On a side note, in our company there are ppl from other countries having got GC in a year, in front of our eyes, still no awareness, no courage, no unity, no initiative. God Bless Retrogression.



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  • StillonH1B
    03-27 03:42 PM
    I was going through all the posts and I am surprised that there is no mention of Jayaprakash Narayan.

    Jayaprakash Narayan(Doctor and ex IAS officer) is founder and President of LokSatta Party. If you are thinking its just another political party then you are completely wrong. Please go to www.loksatta.org to find out more about him and LokSatta party. And there lot of videos about him on Youtube and here is the one of the link to his speeches at Mumbai University

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4xFCdOYTv4





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  • brb2
    11-02 08:04 AM
    No doubt, Canada is a good second option, but the standard of living is much better in the US and will always be. The health system in Canada is crumbling and a private sector is growing in parallel. The wait period for surgery (knee replacements etc) is increasing and I don't think the manna will last too long.



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  • ssharma
    07-08 09:34 AM
    Is there certain minimum "safe" numbers of days one has to stay with the sponsoring company after getting the EB Green Card.
    In my case I have been working with my employer since Sept-2001 (almost 7 years). My GC labor was started in Dec 485 filed in May and GC approved June 24, 2008.

    I was in the middle of changing jobs using AC21 just before my GC got approved, hence this urgency. How soon can I join some my new job ?

    Thanks for your time.





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  • vdlrao
    07-25 12:35 AM
    Ever Since August Bullitien came out Ron has posted not to raise any hopes

    I doubt it whether he knows about the USCIS has changed the spill overs to horizontal fall outs and due to that the number of visas added to EB2 India/China. The horizontal spill over is giving a greatest adventage to EB2 India and making it run to catch up CURRENT. I see in the link http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5456&page=8 , in one post he is predicting " I expect to see substantial worldwide EB3 movement during the next fiscal year." . But its not true because the EB3 world wide wont have many visas as before from now on. The EB3 world wide will move based on the 7% quota but not more than that.



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  • amitjoey
    01-13 11:56 AM
    Do not overanalyze any bill- All these bills are mere drafts until they come on floor for debate, and even after that they go thru amendments, rewriting, and the final bill comes out in most cases to be very different from the original. Even after the bill is passed in both houses, the committees that are responsible in reconciling the bill will tweak it and fine tune it.
    This means that even good provisions can be deleted at any time during the debate, thru an amendment lobbied by the antis- if the EB Community is not vigilant.
    To give you an insight: In Dec 2005, there was a line item in a bill that would have recaptured visas for EB applicants, the bill was passed � and at the last minute this provision was deleted.


    IF you read through the provisions and the paper that IV created for lobby days in July 2010- Each one of the provisions and the underlying text that IV is asking for has been written with clear understanding of the issues EB applicants face- It is written in a way that if incorporated in any of the bills as an amendment- will give fair and balanced numbers to all categories -EB3, EB2.

    So, regardless of which bill (Immigrant friendly) comes on the floor- IV will lobby to have this package included as an amendment. Or IV will lobby to get this inserted into the main bill.

    So- Please, do not get worked up about EB3 vs EB2. OR India vs China vs World

    The real work is to be vigilant about what bill has the chance to come on the floor and then lobby to get the amendments included.

    There are bigger issues for our community- Not one immigrant friendly bill has come up for debate in the last 4 years (exception is the dream act). And here the IV Community is debating and fighting about provisions about one of 100 bills that might never see a chance on the floor.

    The big battle is to advocate and lobby at grassroots to get a bill to come on the floor- persuade lawmakers to be cosponsors for a bill that will help us, and then when the bill is up for debate, we can talk about what we should include as amendments or insert in the main bill to make it fair for everybody.





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  • Marphad
    05-19 10:06 AM
    Illusions, Thanks Bro!!

    Marphad, I have posted less than 20 posts in this forum and I have never posted anything anti-immigrant. The most number of posts I have ever posted was in this thread.

    And that was because I saw some people posting misleading information about the Sri Lankan war and I wanted everyone to see at least what I consider to be the real situation. I can't help it if people have trouble listening to different opinions and different sides of the story but this is a public forum and I have the freedom to post what I feel as long as I don't cross the line.

    In any case, I am too happy today to be wasting my time on petty stuff like these.

    Hasta la vista Baby!!!! :D

    Would you consider updating your profile please!





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  • Saralayar
    07-03 10:40 AM
    My son recently finished his high school and wanted to do Dental degree in India. My current situation is I have applied for adjustment of status in July 2007. Me and my family got the EAD and AP. My priority date is Eb3-November 2005. WIth this mess, I am not sure when I will get my green card.
    My question is:
    Can I send my son to India for his studies when the adjustment of status is pending. Will it be considered as abondaned if he is out of US when the adjustment of status is in progress?.
    Is there any specific forms for this type of situation so that he can go for studies in India and continue the adjustment of status.





    mihird
    10-09 03:34 PM
    I too am in the US for 6 years now and because my lawyer insisted on transferring to H1 status from TN before filing the GC (wasted a full year in that waiting for the quota to open up), it has gotten me to this state...

    Overall, I still feel, its cleaner to go from H1 to GC. TN to GC requires careful planning and deeper understanding of the laws. Strictly going by the books though, TN is not a dual intent status, so the road to the GC might get murcky...





    gbof
    09-15 11:06 AM
    month priority date No of appr 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006
    June-08 4/1/2004 122 2 9 18 61 30
    July-08 4/1/2004 88 1 7 14 29 36
    August-08 6/1/2006 261 0 3 5 19 63 103 67
    Sept-08 8/1/2006 3 0 1 0 0 2

    Thanks for this useful info. 05 & 06 approved #s in Q-4 of 08 looks very significant - these alongwith approval of 'multiple filed AOS' will surely reduce wait time for 05-EB2i. Hop[efully before june 05 cases will be done.



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